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SooT Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Ken Pollard wrote: | | SooT wrote: |
Did you get the Tshirt? |
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yup, got one here too, we are a bonifide member of the club. |
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J. Goldsmith Strings Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Further progress on my first violin scroll.
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DonLeister Moderator
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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| I like it that you jump right in! I wish I had started at your age. How is the tool sharpening going? |
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J. Goldsmith Strings Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:14 am Post subject: |
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I've got a friend popping down to where I live to show me how to sharpen soon. I already know how to sharpen chisels and plane blades, but he's giving me an advanced lesson in all tools.
And thank you. What do you think of the scroll so far? |
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kjb Super Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| your scroll looks very good, keep posting pics. |
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DonLeister Moderator
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:50 am Post subject: |
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| I think your scroll looks good so far. It is hard to tell from photos but perhaps still needs cleaning up. |
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J. Goldsmith Strings Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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I've only used a gouge so far. The eyes are a bit messy because I carved the last turn too low but I think I can clean it up. I need to figure out how to sharpen a scraper then I'm good to go!
Thanks for the nice comments, I appreciate any feedback. |
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DonLeister Moderator
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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It would take me a long time to explain what works for me and then it may not work for you. You have a friend that makes violins? That would be ideal.
Michael Danton has a book partially written with excellent advice, it is online and free, I just don't have the link handy. Violinmag or something. |
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Mat Roop Senior Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 911 Location: Wyoming Ontario
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Cliff Green Member
Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 111 Location: Amissville, Virginia
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Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Totally agree concerning looking at Michael Darnton's Violinmag.com,
You mentioned scrapers. Another tip from Mr Darnton. Spring steel shim stock makes wonderful, cheap, and flexible scrapers. .012 or .016in 6"x 50" spring steel shim stock is available in the US from McMasterCarr for around $20. It can be cut to shape with tin snips and a 45 degree bevel ground on as Michael recommends in Violinmag. 50 inches will last a lifetime. If you can't find shim stock in the UK I'm sure a care package could be shipped to you. |
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DonLeister Moderator
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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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I set up this today. It is the first from the Sloan DG.
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kjb Super Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:00 am Post subject: |
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| very nice , i like that color a lot. |
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ctviolin Super Member
Joined: 07 May 2009 Posts: 961 Location: Roswell
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Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| DonLeister wrote: |
I set up this today. It is the first from the Sloan DG.
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Don, that's gorgeous.
And "gorgeous" is a word I hate to use, but its true.
I wish I could try that violin out in person... Please give a brief synopsis on how and what you used for varnish, and how did you finish it? What surface treatment did you use?
Inquiring minds want to know. If you've already gone over this info earlier in this thread - well, I'd like to go over it in present time.
Is that cool? _________________ Look,
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ctviolin Super Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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| J. Goldsmith Strings wrote: |
Further progress on my first violin scroll.
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First? - pretty cool J. Goldsmith.
My first scroll is sitting on my workbench still. It's been there for about twenty five years now, as a reminder of where I started and where I am now...
It's too thin for a 4/4 fingerboard, and the peg holes are way too big - even for new full size pegs. Oh well. Such is life. It was a learning experience.
Your work looks fine - and I really would like to see it (this neck and scroll) go on a first violin. Keep up the toil, as toil is necessary step, for a violin maker that is mostly doing it alone or by oneself, its fairly well necessary and usual.
I'd say - keep up working with the established luthiers as long s they're willing to put up with the visits! _________________ Look,
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DonLeister Moderator
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Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys. It looks a little darker than the photo but still a pleasant dark orange.
It is a similar method as the last, scraped and smoothed with horsetail grass or micro mesh for the front, some fine paper on the maple in between coats of dark colored varnish.
At least this time the horsetail grass smoothed and burnished the spruce at the same time which helps preserve some texture but keeps it down some if you know what I mean.
Sometimes it seems like the texture of the wood keeps coming back, or rather the varnish sinks down as it cures, often a little too much for my tastes and my customers tastes. On this one I smoothed the varnish between most every coat, I usually don't but I wanted a polished look on this one, and it still has some texture of the wood as you can see.
The varnish is some of Joe Robson's combined with some I made.
For the final rub down it was first gone over very lightly with a scraper to get the nits off then wet sanded very lightly and then polished with oil and a couple drops of alcohol.
Oh, also I gave it a couple thin glaze coats of artists oil colors in between some of the last coats. |
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