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pmccombs
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Here is one of my violins
There are a few things I need to fix on it. |
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Chet Bishop
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If you don't mind my asking (nice looking fiddle, by the way), how do you take the photos so that they only have the white background, (unlike my cluttered pictures)?
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DonLeister
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| Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| Nice work! That maple looks good, where is it from? |
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pmccombs
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| Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Chet Bishop wrote: | | If you don't mind my asking (nice looking fiddle, by the way), how do you take the photos so that they only have the white background, (unlike my cluttered pictures)? |
Chet,
When I was at the summer Workshop, the first article in the binder we got was a piece by Michael Darnton on how to photograph violins. My wife is the photographer, so she read through the article and tried out some of the techniques.
We hung a white sheet behind the violin. After she took the photos, I loaded them on the computer and used a free program called Gimp (http://www.gimp.org/downloads/) to postprocess it. Gimp isn't as good as Photoshop, but it does have a lot of advanced features.
Anyway, I used the "Levels" tool to correct some lighting problems (we didn't have Michael's setup, so we had to improvise some things which resulted in poor contrast in the originals), and then I used the "magic wand" selection tool with a threshold of 20 or so to select the the background. Because it was a white sheet, it provided enough contrast with the violin that the magic selection tool could easily select the complex shape of the violin. Once I had the background selection, it was easy to fill it all in with white. The program is also good for stitching multiple photos together, as you can see.
After the editing, I scaled the image down to a smaller size that would be more appropriate for viewing in a browser. |
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pmccombs
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| DonLeister wrote: | | Nice work! That maple looks good, where is it from? |
Thanks! I made this violin at the Violin Guild of America in St. Paul. Will Bartuff, the teacher there, got the wood for me. I'm not sure where he got it, but I know that one of his suppliers is Musaica Imports.
There's also a chance the wood came from International Violin. |
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Chet Bishop
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pmccombs
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Here's another picture I did of my very first violin:
I made this one with the help of Will Bartruff. He taught me how to do it through email correspondence. My job was to send him photos of my progress, and his job was to tell me to unglue it and try again.  I had never handled a violin prior to this project, and I was pretty clueless.
Does anyone else have photos of their first one? |
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kjb
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| Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| that is a very nice color, and nice work! |
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pmccombs
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| kjb wrote: | | that is a very nice color, and nice work! |
Thanks, kjb!
The funny thing is that sometimes it seems like I did a better job on my first instrument, with my beginners luck and all, than I do nowadays when I actually try to do it right. |
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Janito
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| pmccombs wrote: | | kjb wrote: | | that is a very nice color, and nice work! |
The funny thing is that sometimes it seems like I did a better job on my first instrument, with my beginners luck and all, than I do nowadays when I actually try to do it right. |
That's because you have acquired more noise without similar enhancement of the filter mechanism(s).
For example, without strong filtering, it's easy to be paralysed just reading all the noise about sealers/grounds/varnishes (and you don't even know what was a temporary phase that was buried as a 'mistake of the past'). |
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pmccombs
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| Janito wrote: | | pmccombs wrote: | | kjb wrote: | | that is a very nice color, and nice work! |
The funny thing is that sometimes it seems like I did a better job on my first instrument, with my beginners luck and all, than I do nowadays when I actually try to do it right. |
That's because you have acquired more noise without similar enhancement of the filter mechanism(s).
For example, without strong filtering, it's easy to be paralysed just reading all the noise about sealers/grounds/varnishes (and you don't even know what was a temporary phase that was buried as a 'mistake of the past'). |
There certainly is a lot of stuff to sort through. |
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kjb
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| I know what you mean by the noise,, I am finally getting to the point of getting to the basics |
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Janito
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| Janito wrote: |
That's because you have acquired more noise without similar enhancement of the filter mechanism(s).
For example, without strong filtering, it's easy to be paralysed just reading all the noise about sealers/grounds/varnishes (and you don't even know what was a temporary phase that was buried as a 'mistake of the past'). |
And I would add that in the 'internet' medium a sentence of a novice dilettante can appear as weighty as that of a master. |
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kjb
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| that is especially true if you have no other advice from a living person, and don't know much to start with , you end up going down all sorts of dead end paths. |
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Cliff Green
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| I've always held Mr Darnton's methods in high esteem since they seem to be based on logic and observation rather than speculation and theory. It's hard to go wrong following his methods. I also listen up when Roger Hargrave is teaching. I'm sure there are many other luthiers using similar methods, but the willingness of these two men to share their knowledge has ment much to me. |
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