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L P Reedy Super Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Make them, as in your link. I don't know where you could buy them. I haven't used them in metal or for deep holes. Obviously the end can be ground to make flat or variously shaped hole bottoms. I read about them many, many years ago and found the concept so simple that even I could remember it. I grind a little relief on the non-cutting side. If I need the hole to be in an exact location I either clamp the piece or start the hole with a regular bit. |
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kjb Super Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:35 am Post subject: |
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| thanks sounds like a nice project. |
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ctviolin Super Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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So the top plate is now an even 3mm (thick) all over, (still plenty of meat for me to hack away at...) well smoothed out and ready to progress, so I can start to lay out the ff holes, and the bass bar placement, and the channel for the purfling and edge.
Well, since the purfling is already in, the thing I'm going to do next, actually, is cut the edge channel and finish the edge work and round the edges. Then I'll move on to the ff holes, the final thickness-ing, and bass bar.
For me, this is where I really start to look the most like an amateur. I will eventually take the time and training necessary to become a professional at this tedious aspect - but in fact, this is where I have always fallen short at least somewhat. That is - the edgework.
Any advice is welcome, and I will talk this over with anyone willing to talk about it.
It should go well and wind up close to looking almost professional. But the fact of the matter is, that I often antique the violin because it is more or less invisible and more acceptable - on a rough or "antique" plate. (rough edgework, that is.)
So there you go. Call me a fool - and you'd be right!
Pics to follow. _________________ Look,
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actonern Super Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Craig, that Del Gesu STRAD magazine poster from behind the drill press is from the mid 80s, as I recall... you've been collecting for a while!
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fjodor Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:58 am Post subject: |
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I agree that the edge work is one of the hard parts of violin making. For me especially the corners are challenging in any respect.
Hope it's ok to post some pictures since there were talk about edge thicknessing before. I don't have a drill press so I do it the old fashion way. I scribe a line along the edge, usually 4 mm, a bit more in the c-bouts and button area and corner tips around 5mm. I then work almost to the line with a big gouge and take the last part with a broad chisel down to the line.
The result is not as perfect as with router on a drill press, but I find this part of the work very enjoyable for some reason...
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kjb Super Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| funny how we enjoy different parts and tools , shape looks good. I am liking finger planes a lot now. |
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ctviolin Super Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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 _________________ Look,
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ctviolin Super Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| fjodor wrote: |
I agree that the edge work is one of the hard parts of violin making. For me especially the corners are challenging in any respect.
Hope it's ok to post some pictures since there were talk about edge thicknessing before. I don't have a drill press so I do it the old fashion way. I scribe a line along the edge, usually 4 mm, a bit more in the c-bouts and button area and corner tips around 5mm. I then work almost to the line with a big gouge and take the last part with a broad chisel down to the line.
The result is not as perfect as with router on a drill press, but I find this part of the work very enjoyable for some reason...
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Hope it's OK to post pictures?
Dude, (sorry bout the "Dude" part, I'm just being social now...) I absolutely love it when anyone besides me posts pictures of what they are doing, and how they are doing it.
That's why I started this thread here - hoping against hope that someone or even someone's might join in, and this might become a discussion of makers.
About making.
Not only do I love it that you are posting your photos here - I look at your pictures, and see things about it that I really like and I believe that I can see where you're going with your plate, and I think that I might go in a slightly different direction with my next one.
In particular with the corner outline & etc....
Please keep on doing this.
You look like you're having a great time doing the thing that we LOVE to do - making violins.
You da maker, bud! _________________ Look,
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ctviolin Super Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| actonern wrote: | Craig, that Del Gesu STRAD magazine poster from behind the drill press is from the mid 80s, as I recall... you've been collecting for a while!
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Sorry E... That's Ken Pollard's shop!
All of my Strad posters are folded and filed now. I do have a lot of them, but none of them is on a wall any longer.
I don't know - but I might even have THAT SAME poster.
ct _________________ Look,
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Ken Pollard Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| ctviolin wrote: |
Sorry E... That's Ken Pollard's shop!
All of my Strad posters are folded and filed now. I do have a lot of them, but none of them is on a wall any longer.
I don't know - but I might even have THAT SAME poster.
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Afraid to take it off the wall now, it's been there long enough I'd have a large unfaded spot.
I'm safe though. A couple years back, Andres Sender mentioned this particular poster is up, in pieces, but with the text on Roger Hargrave's site.
http://www.roger-hargrave.de/PDF/Artikel/Strad/Artikel_0000_00_Gesu_1773_PDF.pdf
It's really remarkable to think we have all this information available to us. |
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kjb Super Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:39 am Post subject: |
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thanks for the info link
CT or anyone else, are you using a toothed blade for roughing out? |
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ctviolin Super Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| kjb wrote: | thanks for the info link
CT or anyone else, are you using a toothed blade for roughing out?
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Yes, I have both a toothed and a plain straight blade for my "workhorse" thumb plain. The toothed blade is pretty cool for roughing out anything.
It's kind of amazing what the toothed edge does, for the way the plane cuts, isn't it? _________________ Look,
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kjb Super Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| what is the blade width on your workhorse? |
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ctviolin Super Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| kjb wrote: | | what is the blade width on your workhorse? |
My workhorse plane blade width measures 1/2".
Here it is with its brothers.
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