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Mat Roop
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 Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 11:18 pm Post subject: Our violin junk |
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I was moved....
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=UJrSUHK9Luw
Is there a will to collectively create a scrap heap of our violin waste to send on to such or similar folk? If there is... suggestions? Problems with such an idea?
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Lemuel
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| Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Moving indeed...and a good idea as well. I'll mention this to my colleagues.
Thanks for sharing. |
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I wonder if the super rich are similarly moved when they see the lifestyles of the rest of us  |
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Chet Bishop
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actonern
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| Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:28 am Post subject: |
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| You don't think video footage of me emptying my own dishwasher would elicit soft gasps of sympathetic astonishment? |
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I have a friend (though not very close friend, we occasionally meet) who lives in his second 5 million dollar house (somewhat smaller than his first house) - hopefully that fits the idea of "super rich". He's very interested in crafts, very intrigued by hand tool work, and I can't even begin to tell you how much the little things in life (like personally restoring a Stanley #2) mean to him. You can tell on his face that anyone's passion driven endeavor just makes him plain ol' happy.
Hope that clarifies a few misconceptions out there.
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wm_crash, the friendly hooligan
| actonern wrote: | | I wonder if the super rich are similarly moved when they see the lifestyles of the rest of us |
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ctviolin
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| wm_crash wrote: | I have a friend (though not very close friend, we occasionally meet) who lives in his second 5 million dollar house (somewhat smaller than his first house) - hopefully that fits the idea of "super rich". He's very interested in crafts, very intrigued by hand tool work, and I can't even begin to tell you how much the little things in life (like personally restoring a Stanley #2) mean to him. You can tell on his face that anyone's passion driven endeavor just makes him plain ol' happy.
Hope that clarifies a few misconceptions out there.
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wm_crash, the friendly hooligan
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Hmm,
very interesting "argument" being offered up here.
Ok, I'll bite - I love a good political discussion.
"Clarifying misconceptions" ? Really?
this reads as a *judgment call* of sorts, on the replies of the other posters, as misconceptions or errors in judgement - which it then attempts to clarify, or clear (clean) up, in one sort of "'fell swoop" blow, giving a "correct" political soundbite type answer, on "the correct" way of approaching a (this) particular idea.
When, in fact, a single particular incident is being presented - as if IT represented what should be a type of "standard" of behavior...
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Interesting argument, though - I suppose it shows how easily any subject can be changed, influenced, or even stopped dead or sidetracked permanently - by the addition and presentation of "ethical button issues" - no matter how "incidental" to the main point of the argument they actually are.
Argument for the sake of argument - (where violins or violin related realities can take a back seat to "proper" general political argumentation) or argument for the sake of clarity & general accuracy within the given subject matter?
You decide.
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Chet Bishop
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I tried to send several student grade violins to Cuba once, and the people in charge, here, declared them not good enough. Kind of disappointing. They cost me something to get, and some time and materials to refurbish, and students here would be glad to have them...but the powers that be, on this end, decided to give them back to me.
I didn't try again. I gave other, better instruments to a group in India. If someone wants to set up a way to transport them and make SURE they actually get to the kids in Paraguay, I might try again.
I honestly don't care what the rich folks think, or whether it is politically correct to think anything at all...an oil-can cello says a lot, in a language I understand.
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ctviolin
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| Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:35 am Post subject: |
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| Chet Bishop wrote: |
I honestly don't care what the rich folks think, or whether it is politically correct to think anything at all...an oil-can cello says a lot, in a language I understand.
Chet |
Folks generally, rich or poor, can THINK what they like, ACT as they like, or even follow what politics - non politics or religion, they feel they must, (DO whatever they like, also - in other words) either as a group, or as individuals.
Ok so far, right?
Interestingly enough - "rich" or "poor" generally doesn't really have much, if anything, to do with the innate importance of their acts, or of their decisions, or say anything about their worth - socially.
The same GENERAL "mix" seems to always be there, in rather any group of people. (Rich or poor, very smart or average, short or tall, male or female, whatever)
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kubasa
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I have seen this video before. It really is touching. I've seen first hand people digging through garbage for things to sell or to provide for their own needs. It's hard to see that sort of thing.
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No arguments at all. I am actually not fond of either politics or political correctness. All I was trying to do was to show that "rich" is an invalid overgeneralization - all I needed was one example (and I can find a second one if pressed to do so).
By all means, people in general are more shallow than I expect of humans. But I don't need to give example of those, they are plentiful.
Oh, and kudos to you Chet! I appreciate your efforts.
cheers,
wm_crash, the friendly hooligan
| ctviolin wrote: | Argument for the sake of argument - (where violins or violin related realities can take a back seat to "proper" general political argumentation) or argument for the sake of clarity & general accuracy within the given subject matter?
You decide.
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ctviolin
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| wm_crash wrote: |
By all means, people in general are more shallow than I expect of humans. But I don't need to give example of those, they are plentiful.
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Ha ha ha!, Ok, so, I won't argue with something as easy to illustrate as this apparently is.
Then, I must think - are there really that many truly SHALLOW people around - or are there just more people around who simply have an interest in things that I have no interest in - or live a lifestyle I have no interest in?
And then, if anything of the sort is the truth of the matter, what actually comprises "shallow"?
Which, when you think about it, makes virtually ANYONE (or everyone) shallow - at least to "others"...
Which gives ME (as in, my opinion only) an excuse not to consider other people, generally, any more or less shallow that I am.
(Ok, ok - with rare exception.)
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| actonern wrote: | | You don't think video footage of me emptying my own dishwasher would elicit soft gasps of sympathetic astonishment? |
hmm, Perhaps not -
Still, I believe I'd pay good money to watch that.
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Unfortunately, society has programmed our minds to see "richness" as primarily material wealth.
What impresses me with video clips like these is that it reveals a much deeper meaning of "richness",
where people can be thankful and happy in the midst of poverty. It's really a lesson for me, especially
where I tend to grumble when I don't get what I want. |
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Chet Bishop
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| Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Lemuel wrote: | Unfortunately, society has programmed our minds to see "richness" as primarily material wealth.
What impresses me with video clips like these is that it reveals a much deeper meaning of "richness",
where people can be thankful and happy in the midst of poverty. It's really a lesson for me, especially
where I tend to grumble when I don't get what I want. |
Now yer talkin'!
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