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Chet Bishop
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:15 pm    Post subject: Five-string Fiddle On the Way. Reply with quote

There is still a lot to be done-- all I have on this so far is the ground/sealer coat. I like the wood, especially the maple. I hope I can move the color more in a "golden" direction. Probably I will start varnishing tomorrow evening. (actually, most likely a coat of propolis, to try to bring the spruce closer to the color of the maple). Anyway...here it is. Not sure I really like the long corners...I may decide to shorten them a little.







The maple is from a log given to me a few years ago. This is the first time I have used the wood. Not all the maple is as wild-looking as this, but some is. I really like it. I hope it sounds as good as it looks.

Thanks for looking.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:17 pm    Post subject: Varnish nearing completion Reply with quote

These photos are a little deceptive-- the front and back pictures are WAY too yellow, but I don't know how to color-correct, so they simply "are what they are". The scroll photo is pretty close to correct, so...I guess you can use your imagination a bit. Smile







I expect I will apply two or three more coats before I call it complete. I hope to have it set up and playing by Saturday evening.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK...it is as done as it is going to get, today. I discovered that I had no 5-string tailpieces, so I carved one of Osage Orange...but I think it is heavy enough that is affecting the sound a bit. The real five-string tailpiece (Wittner) will arrive Wednesday. Meanwhile, I evidently misplaced the set of five matched helicore strings I had waiting for this, so I had to use Dominants plus a Dominant C-string made for a large viola. It plays amazingly well, considering all the goofy set-up issues, but I will defer judgment until the right stuff arrives. I'll have to order more strings, I guess... Anyway, here it is.








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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that's some georgus backwood.

Cool fiddle, chet. (also, good to see you again!)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, my friend. I have missed chatting with you. Hope to see a lot more of you.

Anything special on your bench right now?

I have begun a lion-head viola...first try at that sort of thing-- not sure whether I am up to it. I have three violas and two violins in progress at the moment.

Blessings,

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW, to all interested parties, I replaced the strings with the Helicore five-string set, and it sounds great.

I experimented first with just replacing the C string, and leaving the Dominants, and that was good, too, but I decided to keep it a matched set, so I ended up replacing all five.

The owner of the first five-string showed up for some changes on it, and while I worked on his fiddle, he played this one. Quite a treat...the longer he played, the more he warmed to it, and he was doing some serious fiddling by the time I was done working on his fiddle. (Maybe I should have milked it a bit, and enjoyed a longer concert!) Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chet Bishop wrote:
Thanks, my friend. I have missed chatting with you. Hope to see a lot more of you.

Anything special on your bench right now?

I have begun a lion-head viola...first try at that sort of thing-- not sure whether I am up to it. I have three violas and two violins in progress at the moment.

Blessings,

Chet


From what I've seen of your work, you're up to it.

I've stopped working on violins for a few years, but am back to it now, the most interesting thing on my bench right now is about fifty tools with an edge which I just sharpened up to 600 grit - which is about what I like before honing...

I prefer not to sharpen up to 1200 to 1500, actualy I prefer a bit less sharp tool, used with a bit of pressure.

More function - less resharpening.
When I get my 1" X 42" leather belt replaced, I'll start to hone them on the belt sander) - (ending off with the back abrasive stick on a leather belt) So, now I must hone them and move on to my plains ( 22" down to about 1/4" )...

And then, comes my attempt to learn more about edge work and corner work - hopefully resulting in better work than I have accomplished thus far on edges and corners in the past...

A very necessary move for me.[/img]
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "FlexCut" people sell and abrasive stropping compound that works very well. It looks like a block of yellow chalk, but is some sort of hard, waxy substance loaded with chromium oxide and titanium oxide, if I remember correctly. I was really pleased with it, and am using it every day, now.

My son had given me a set of three carving knives (which I am using on the lion-head), and a little block of that compound was included. I was amazed at the difference between that and whatever I had before. I might actually get used to having sharp tools. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:16 pm    Post subject: One to be proud of Reply with quote

Hi chet I love that fiddle you can be sure it is one of a kind
That one will be hard to part with i bet Hope i win the loto tonight so i can call you for a price Ken
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a large pile of wood from that same tree. Granted, not all the wood looks like that, but I intend to build a lot of instruments from that log.



Can't hang onto them...I have to sell 'em. There will be more, but yes, every one will be unique, simply because every piece of wood is different.

Glad you like the fiddle. It sure turned out to sound good. There are things I will do differently next time, but not affecting the sound. (Corners a tad too long, for one thing...)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes I noticed the corners. that's one thing I'm working on now also. Corners and edgework. There is something always wrong with my corners and edge work.

Only now (after 40+ violins ) am I looking to correct all of those things that have been wrong - in fact, my goal now is to learn those points that I have been weak at all along since violin #1.

Things that really point to a professionalism, I have not really striven for up till now.

Though I have always noticed it.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or, more correctly - my lack of such important details.

Might as well learn those things sometime this lifetime...
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chet Bishop wrote:
I have a large pile of wood from that same tree. Granted, not all the wood looks like that, but I intend to build a lot of instruments from that log.



Nice photos Chet.

How'd you manage to post them?

Is posting photos here easy?

Am I just not getting it?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:36 pm    Post subject: Photos. Reply with quote

Craig;

What I did was to start an account on Photobucket (it's free), and upload the photos there (it tells you how), after shrinking them to about 25% of their original size using Microsoft Photo editor (or photomanager-- whatever it is called.) (By the way, when you reduce their size, you want to save them under a different title or you will change the original...which I don't want to do.)

Then I hold the mouse over the picture on photobucket, and a drop-down list appears. One of the items has the address with "img" in front of it. Click on that one, and it will say "copied".

Then, keeping that window open (if you have other photos to post), switch back to the forum and paste it in your reply. (Ctrl-V)

If you get a photobucket account started, give me a call and we will walk through the process-- it is pretty easy. My number is on my website.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:37 am    Post subject: Re: Photos. Reply with quote

Chet Bishop wrote:
Craig;

What I did was to start an account on Photobucket (it's free), and upload the photos there (it tells you how), after shrinking them to about 25% of their original size using Microsoft Photo editor (or photomanager-- whatever it is called.) (By the way, when you reduce their size, you want to save them under a different title or you will change the original...which I don't want to do.)

Then I hold the mouse over the picture on photobucket, and a drop-down list appears. One of the items has the address with "img" in front of it. Click on that one, and it will say "copied".

Then, keeping that window open (if you have other photos to post), switch back to the forum and paste it in your reply. (Ctrl-V)

If you get a photobucket account started, give me a call and we will walk through the process-- it is pretty easy. My number is on my website.

Chet


OK, I'll try it.

Thanks bud!

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