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terryc
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:09 am    Post subject: Peg Reamers Reply with quote

Interested in purchasing a peg reamer and wanted to know if anyone has an opinion on blade type.
Seems to be the spiral type, and then there are those of a more straight veined blade. Also noticed a modified version of the straight veined style with 1/3 of the shaft flat with no cutting blade. They claim it provides a more accurate cut.
Any advise or observations would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Terry,
Go with the straight blade type. The spiral reamers tend make the hole not round. Good luck!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreeing with that.

Where did you see the kind with a flat side, that I've never seen before?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys for getting back and happy we have a consensus on the straight blade type.

I saw it on but can now only locate the link for a cello but the one I was looking at was for a violin.
Here is the link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CELLO-PEG-HOLE-REAMER-FOR-VIOLIN-MAKER-/400586619418?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item5d44d2ba1a

Thanks again,
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That reamer is not flat-sided. It does not have cutting edges all the way around and is what you want if you desire round holes. I have made a few flat-sided reamers that work pretty well. One advantage is that they will cut both ways. That is sometimes also a disadvantage. But you can't buy one, you have to make your own or get a machinist to do it.

I have both spiral and straight and prefer the spiral for most holes. It certainly DOES make round holes. There are a few places where straight works better and they are a little cheaper.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

L P Reedy wrote:
That reamer is not flat-sided. It does not have cutting edges all the way around and is what you want if you desire round holes. I have made a few flat-sided reamers that work pretty well. One advantage is that they will cut both ways. That is sometimes also a disadvantage. But you can't buy one, you have to make your own or get a machinist to do it.

I have both spiral and straight and prefer the spiral for most holes. It certainly DOES make round holes. There are a few places where straight works better and they are a little cheaper.


Now I am really confused. Let me clarify, did not mean "flat" it is round but 1/3 of it has no cutting blade. In your opinion, does the 1/3 round have any merit? (Please see link above)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The non cutting segment of the reamer allows you to shift the hole laterally with somewhat better control than a reamer with 360 blades. I agree with LP's comparison of straight and spiral reamers. If I only had one it would be straight but the spirals do cut nicely.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cliff,
Appreciate the explanation on the reamer with the smooth side.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My objection to the spiral reamer wasn't about round holes, but the tendency for it to suck itself in under certain circumstances. But I used a very early one, one of the first run, and Herdim's tools in that era weren't always useable.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

terryc wrote:
Cliff,
Appreciate the explanation on the reamer with the smooth side.
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Terryc

In addition, a reamer with evenly spaced cutting edges all the way around will chatter and not cut a smooth hole. Countersinks do the same thing. My best countersink has only one cutting edge.

My spiral reamer is relatively new and does not seem to have the self-feeding tendency. It is not as good for correcting hole alignment as the straight-fluted one.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="L P Reedy"]
In addition, a reamer with evenly spaced cutting edges all the way around will chatter and not cut a smooth hole. Countersinks do the same thing. My best countersink has only one cutting edge.

Ok LP Reedy nailed the issue that I was thinking of which as he correctly states is associated with reamers that have cutting edges all the way around. Sorry for the memory lapse!
Either way good luck reaming is not a difficult procedure, go slow and keep an eye out that the reamer isn't drifting out of alignment.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just encountered an interesting situation. I have a horribly-treated old fiddle in for repair. It had a set of totally non-functioning Casperi pegs. When I got them out I found that it had previously been equipped with bass-style geared tuners. All of this had resulted in holes that were oversized and two of them "doubled." I found, in reaming for bushings, that the spiral reamer DID NOT work. I don't know why, but all it would do was grab. The straight reamer had trouble but was much better. Two of the holes were so bad that I used a cello reamer.

There are other problems almost as bad, but we won't get into them.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LP... Interseting.... I am curious how you dealt with the double holes.
... But I'll start a new topic on this... Cheers, Mat
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