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aliros
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 Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:27 pm Post subject: First Violin,S.O.S |
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Hi dear friends
I am new member and interested in music,i play Azerbaijan Tar,i like classical music so much and want to learn playing violin,but i don't want buy so should make it,but i don't have pattern and model to start.
I have a carpenter friend then i have access to wood and tools but i couldn't find pattern to start(I live in Iran so cant buy posters from foreign websites because of money transfer and delivery problems).
I know you have much of experience in violin making and want to help me to make a good violin.
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kjb
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you can actually draw the form out with a compass and a ruler, after that , there are many u tubes , and forums that you can use. I don't know how you are going to get wood if you can't buy out side the country, although you may have what you need growing there as I am not familiar with your flora.
but yes if you don't have money and you do have time you can make one that will get you started. good luck |
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aliros
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| kjb wrote: | you can actually draw the form out with a compass and a ruler, after that , there are many u tubes , and forums that you can use. I don't know how you are going to get wood if you can't buy out side the country, although you may have what you need growing there as I am not familiar with your flora.
but yes if you don't have money and you do have time you can make one that will get you started. good luck |
thank you for your attention dear friend,I didn't say i don't have money,the posters is just 13 $,i said it's not possible to buy,you know anyone needs international credit cards like visa card and etc from a website but this kind of cards is not available in Iran also delivery is another problem(I cant receive my ASME magazine from us any more) ,yes i can get woods any kind of wood are available here,south Azerbaijan,and I don't know whats odd if i want to have measurements.
can i have a good copy if i draw myself whit ruler and compass?
other question can i use modeling software (catia,solidwork and etc)
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actonern
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If you have access to a printer that can print big enough, you can download free full size plans from this website for a Guarneri Del Gesu violin, the "Ole Bull".
http://www.landon-violins.com/olebull/index.html |
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aliros
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thank you so much,yeah i will print them,but there wasn't whole neck plane(i don't know it's length)should i use images to necks measurements? |
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actonern
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Measure 136mm from the point on the pegbox where the nut and fingerboard meet to the other end.
The neck block is mortised into the top block on an angle. the angle commonly used for the neck block is 85 degrees... the mortise is then adjusted when fitting the neck to ensure that the projection is right for the instrument you're making. |
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aliros
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I printed plans and wanna make Del Gesu violin and start to cut wood for mold of the ribs and some question
1,plans in this file and outlines is for mold of ribs or is for plates? i mean should i cut mold at same measurements and plates a little bigger or cut mold little than plan and make plates by plan?
http://www.landon-violins.com/olebull/Graphics/Plans/ole%20bull%20plans.pdf
2,numbers which are written in circle on ribs are thickness of ribs?(1.4 1.2 1.1)
3,thickness of lining that used for the ribs ? |
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fjodor
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| aliros wrote: | I printed plans and wanna make Del Gesu violin and start to cut wood for mold of the ribs and some question
1,plans in this file and outlines is for mold of ribs or is for plates? i mean should i cut mold at same measurements and plates a little bigger or cut mold little than plan and make plates by plan?
http://www.landon-violins.com/olebull/Graphics/Plans/ole%20bull%20plans.pdf
2,numbers which are written in circle on ribs are thickness of ribs?(1.4 1.2 1.1)
3,thickness of lining that used for the ribs ? |
Hi, I think the plans is from the outlines of the plates. here's a recent thread about making a mould from an outline
http://www.violins.ca/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1538
2) Yes it should be the rib thickness
3) Linings are usually around 2 mm thick, 7-8 mm high[/url] |
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aliros
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:35 am Post subject: |
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| thank you fjodor |
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aliros
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I measured plans and some images whit Photoshop and compared whit prints and the numbers are not same.
plates in printed plans has 35.5 cm length and at the widest area (bottom) has 19.9cm width .
numbers are right?
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Chet Bishop
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aliros
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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yeah i confused  ,sorry,these numbers are correct for plates? |
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fjodor
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The back lenght is not given on the plans but those numbers seems pretty normal. Maybe you can compare the given measurements of the scroll with the printouts and see if it's the same.
Edit: this page gives 20.3 cm for the lower bout of the violin
http://www.cozio.com/Instrument.aspx?id=453 |
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