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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ctviolin wrote:
circa 1976

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If I can find it, I'll post a picture of me holding it way back then, with my once long (now looong gone) "dreadlocks"...


That's your first violin? I don't believe it. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pmccombs wrote:
ctviolin wrote:
circa 1976

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If I can find it, I'll post a picture of me holding it way back then, with my once long (now looong gone) "dreadlocks"...


That's your first violin? I don't believe it. Wink




There's the year, and my name (Craig) is showing in the ff hole.

Violin #1 took almost a year of Saturdays - of course, that was during my 1st marriage, and I didn't go all of the weekends then...

Paul Shaupp (my teacher) used (IIRC) Tyrolean Pine for the belly and a European Maple of some sort for the back, and didn't believe in American wood. So that's what I learned with.

I did switch to all American wood from when I made no.2, and on until the present time.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There's the year, and my name (Craig) is showing in the ff hole.

Violin #1 took almost a year of Saturdays - of course, that was during my 1st marriage, and I didn't go all of the weekends then...

Paul Shaupp (my teacher) used (IIRC) Tyrolean Pine for the belly and a European Maple of some sort for the back, and didn't believe in American wood. So that's what I learned with.

I did switch to all American wood from when I made no.2, and on until the present time.


That's really something for a first violin. Is it played much these days?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's really something for a first violin. Is it played much these days?


Some. I keep a set of Dominant strings on it, and it is in tune...

I play it out of a sense of not wanting to let go of my past, I think. I really do look at this violin as my beginning in the field - before the internet was around, and before I knew anything about violin makers generally, so, it is a real interesting thing for me.

A reminder of a different time, and a different reality, to be blunt about it...

Really, for me, it was a much simpler time - and I like having something from back then hanging around today.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooh, before the internet! I remember how hard it was to get information, or help, or supplies.

Something from today, I think on my last strad I said I didn't see circles when I was doing the corners of my plates, well today I am seeing circles. I am also looking at a different strad poster.



Now that I look at I think I am going to need to try to make the lower corners look just a tad longer.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is that violin that had the 7 green geese painted on the back (p.12) , I think Chet wanted to see it. It is nothing to brag about, the owner just wants to get it playing and go from there.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

good job, it looks like a normal violin now.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a good word for it...normal.

I think I would be tempted to try a french polish, just a little, to see if I could bring out the glow of the wood just a little more, but it looks fine, and it is what the owner wanted,--thus, perfect.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree.

It just looks like an aged violin now.

Like it has been played a lot .
I also wondered how that would work out.
Very cool!!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonLeister wrote:
Oooh, before the internet! I remember how hard it was to get information, or help, or supplies.

Something from today, I think on my last strad I said I didn't see circles when I was doing the corners of my plates, well today I am seeing circles. I am also looking at a different strad poster.

Now that I look at I think I am going to need to try to make the lower corners look just a tad longer.


I'm really curious to see how your purfling goes into this, Don - and how the corner work, generally, goes.

I believe I (gulp!) sort of criticized your purfling corners last time, for for having even points in the corners - which I thought looked fine, don't mistake me - and the work was professional looking, to say the least.
But now I have looked into the past, somewhat intentionally to see what was the norm, and found that even before Strad there were, of course, master violin makers that put the corners in differently - evenly, that is, and not pointing, generally, towards the lower or inside corners...

I will say that I did used to know this, of course, but I'm learning much of what I used to know, over again.

So, so much for my big (and never closing) mouth!

PLEASE, post when you put the purfling in, I'm currently struggling with purfling and edge work now, myself (- struggling - as always), and would really like to see how you deal with it.

Thanks,
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CT, the strad will be weeks away probably but I can show you purfling and corners on something else, same technique and not my idea either.
Your comments are always welcome.

I mark the bee stong with the gouge you see in the photo. The purfling grooves are cut up to that point.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonLeister wrote:
CT, the strad will be weeks away probably but I can show you purfling and corners on something else, same technique and not my idea either.
Your comments are always welcome.

I mark the bee sting with the gouge you see in the photo. The purfling grooves are cut up to that point.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

very nice thanks for the tip
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been doing the final scraping and edge work on this fiddle. Here's a few pictures of the final edge work at the corners I did over the weekend.
1st picture shows the very small and slight angle down to establish the high point.



2nd picture shows the secondary bevel (more step)


3rd and 4th pictures show a close up of the upper and lower corners after blending the bevels together. I use files to do all the edge work.


Best,
Mike Spencer[/img]
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks really nice!
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