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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael Darnton wrote:
Click on the little box with the arrow coming up out of it on the bottom right of the page you were working with, and you get a bunch of stuff to copy and paste:


Ahh - Sweet.

Thanks!
(How do you keep up with all the constant changes?)

I'll be posting another pic, and will try it that way!

Thanks again,
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyway, here I set the gap at 4.5 mm so that when I mark the plate with drilling to that depth, I can get rid of ALL of the drilled hole marks, and wind up right about 4 mm all over the plate and a smooth surface to work.

And then I'll work from that point on, with a slight exaggerated care for the actual final thickness.

Leaving me plenty of extra room to work down to what I really want .
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice thickness wedge, Craig -- big and (probably) easy to find, maybe even in a messy shop like mine.

I generally just use some piece of stock about the thickness I want. I stopped using my drill press after punching through a plate when the stop slipped. But I am using a cheap Sears bench-top drill press (and a heavy hand, apparently). If I had a better machined drill press, I might reconsider.



I don't even use the drill press to rough out the pegbox evacuation any more, just a U-gouge. It goes pretty fast, eliminates the jig set-up time, and reduces my apparent power-tool misuse issues.

I rough scoop the plates down with a big #7 sweep gouge and my thumb-forefinger caliper. I use the Strad-type graduation punch (via Michael D's version) to get the last little bit down, then turn it over to a dial caliper. The first 95% come off about as fast as the last 5%.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I do with the drill press stop issue,

I don't use the stop. I run the drill all the way down so there is no slippage, I have not tried the foster bit but that sounds interesting. thanks for the info
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael Darnton wrote:
Click on the little box with the arrow coming up out of it on the bottom right of the page you were working with, and you get a bunch of stuff to copy and paste:


drill press 004 by ctviolin, on Flickr

Pretty much the exact set up I use to hollow out the backs of fingerboards. except I have the top of the support post rounded and with a dot of thin leather on top to prevent dots on the opposite side caused by slight grain crushing as you press down on the drill.
... nice thread.... cheers, Mat


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kjb wrote:
What I do with the drill press stop issue, I don't use the stop. I run the drill all the way down so there is no slippage....


That's a good idea. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, here you can see the leather tab that's on my post also - it shows in the last photo, but it does look like a bare end on that post, but actually isn't. Also I've drilled depth holes here. I can tell right away that the belly is a bit deep, but will continue on with it anyway.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mounted, ready to rough out;


gouging the excess out - this really does go rather quickly - carve - vacuum up scraps, carve - vacuum up scraps, done - about one to one and a half hours.


Slightly over 4 mm - Ready for the final thicknessing
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to gauge holes for a moment. I've tried a number of drill bits but the only ones I've found useful were home made: a spoon bit for round bottom holes and a D-bit for true flat bottom. I like these because I don't depend on setting the gap, I want to measure how deep I'm going with a thickness caliper. I do have a squared-end regular twist bit but the D-bit works better.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LP... I'm missing something here... how do you measure how deep you are going with a thickness caliper? How does that work when every hole practically is of a different depth?
would you have a pic of your setup?
Sorry for my blockheadedness!
Thanks, Mat
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the size of the work board, mine is more of a frame , I think I will change that.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kjb wrote:
I like the size of the work board, mine is more of a frame , I think I will change that.


Yes, the work board is able to hold the violin plate with the 4 washers, screws, and those little wooden cleats, to enable work to go on completely around the violin plate, without having to avoid any bothersome violin plate holding clamps.

Then the large Jorgensen quick release clamps allow the workboard to be rotated to any position on the base plate (even 180 degrees around) so that the maker is not stuck having to carve against the grain anywhere.

Then too, as if it were necessary, the base clamp will allow further rotation of the whole jig...

It may seem bulky or awkwardly large, but it makes carving the top or bottom plate easy in any direction or position.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mat, just confusing wording. I don't really measure the hole depth, I measure the thickness between the bottom of the hole and the other side of the plate. That's hard to do with a pointed bit because the caliper doesn't reach the bottom of the hole. I think I prefer the way the D-bit cuts now but my largest is only 1/4" diameter. I need one slightly larger for some of my calipers.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you make your own d bits or buy them ??
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http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/d-bits-154906/
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