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Beginner interest in violin-making, particularly Savart's
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael Darnton wrote:


I use five cross templates, but the last summer Sam Ray Compton attended my workshop he was making a back with a template for ever cm of length--35 of them-- and it was looking really perfect!



I'm curious, with that many cross templates, how'd Sam arrive at the long arch? Did he mention it?

...was the long arch derived first, as a separate function, and the cross templates made to accommodate the arch height and plate width for that location?

Did Sam mention anything specifically difficult about the procedure?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam was using the method I developed and teach at the workshop. He just went overboard with it. Basically you start by designing a long arch and hang all the cross arches on that. Then he spent the whole three weeks he was there scraping wood. He was determined to make it perfect.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael Darnton wrote:

He was determined to make it perfect.


That sounds like Sam...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"...but now I use a method that's much more complex that accounts for the distortion of the long arches and any twisting of the body..."

That's "flies to molasses" kind of talk!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

:-) Workshop.

If I wrote it out, it would take me hours, and you still would have trouble figuring out. The whole concept is pretty clever, and works great (tonally), but explaining it involves a lot of hand-waving, which I don't do well on paper. At the workshop, I think that the people who think visually in three-dimensions get it right away, and the rest never do.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking if any of these workshops were available on you tube it would crash their servers... slight exaggeration?

I really would so much love to attend one.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The workshops have grown every year. Now we're doing four weeks, and they usually fill up fast, many places--maybe 70%--being taken immediately by repeat offenders who re-up for the next year before they leave to go home.

I emphasize good solid ways to get things done to make a good violin that works, and everyone gets individualized instruction, there are a lot of different things going on at once, and looking over other peoples' shoulders is encouraged, so it's possible to learn a lot, not only about what you, yourself, are doing.

There is NO groundless theory and voodoo violin making--it's good clean violin making, the way it was done 300 years ago, before romantic amateurs and pseudoscientists started messing with it, which is why Sam Compton specified that he started coming, for instance.
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